I never bought the story that SEALS went in and killed Osama in 2011. They killed him and for some reason had a burial at sea and threw him over the side of the fucking boat. Oops, the body is gone. I always thought it was bullshit, especially considering there’s people who came forward in the intelligence community that said he died in the early 2000’s…~TS
By Paul Craig Roberts | IPE
A decade ago today, I posted the translation reproduced below of a TV news report in Pakistan about the alleged killing of Osama bin Laden by a strike team of Navy SEALS sent in by Obama. I had previously posted a video of the news report which had subscripts explaining in English what was being said, but not myself familiar with the language as a check on the veracity of the subscripts I had the news report translated by a qualified person. What is reproduced below is my column of August 7, 2011.
But first permit me to briefly recap the story. The Obama regime made a dramatic announcement that a Navy SEAL team had just killed Osama bin Laden in Pakistan. The dramatic announcement was accompanied by the claim that Obama and top officials of his regime had watched the operation live. This news report was complete with a photo of Obama and his team intently watching a TV screen while Obama was being terminated.
The claim that the WH watched the raid and death of bin Laden was quickly abandoned as obviously the visual evidence would have been recorded, and everyone would be asking to see the non-existent visual evidence.
Pakistan TV reporters descended on the scene in Abbottabad, Pakistan, and made discoveries that totally contradicted the White House claim. No one had ever seen bin Laden, and the compound the Americans said he lived in was lived in by different people known to the community.
First, the entire scene was witnessed, and a witness stepped forward. A helicopter landed. Its occupants spoke Pashtun and ordered people not to come out of their houses. The people landed by the helicopter went into the alleged bin Laden compound. They returned in 20 minutes, the helicopter began lifting off with all who returned and exploded. All were killed. There were no survivors. Body parts and pieces of the helicopter were everywhere. 200 residents of the neighborhood witnessed that no other helicopter landed. The witness wants to know how the Americans have bin Laden when no one left alive.
You might remember that the Obama regime never presented any evidence that bin Laden had been in their hands. The Obama regime story was that his body was taken by helicopter to a US aircraft carrier and dumped over board in the Indian Ocean in an official Muslim burial.
This story also fell apart. On an aircraft carrier many people are up all night. Sailors reported home that there was no such burial.
The next thing that happened is that the SEAL team, members of which had allegedly conducted the raid that killed bin Laden, were all loaded on a Vietnam era helicopter in Afghanistan, and all were lost allegedly to enemy fire. It was a scandal. Parents reported that their sons had written that something was wrong and they felt threatened. Parents demanded to know why the team, contrary to official policy, was concentrated in one place on an outdated helicopter with no armor protection. The SEALS had been asking who was on the raid, and apparently none of them were. The controversy made the media, but media soon took it silent. Later a person claiming to be the SEAL who killed bin Laden appeared and wrote a book.
Obama’s presidency wasn’t doing well, and some Democrats were talking about running a candidate against him for the nomination. The killing of bin Laden hoax boosted Obama’s standing, and he was renominated without challenge.
Osama bin Laden had actually died a decade previously to Obama’s claim. He died of renal failure and other health problems. His death was widely reported in world news and by Fox News in the US.
I posted some of the obituary notices on November 20, 2013. Here they are:
A Funeral Notice for Osama bin Laden was published on December 26, 2001, in the Egyptian newspaper al-Ward. An English translation is provided below. Anyone fluent in Arabic is invited to verify or correct the translation. This item was sent to me from a reader abroad.
Also below are is a CNN interview with its medical correspondent who examines the last non-faked video of bin Laden and concludes that bin Laden is seriously ill.
There is also below a 2002 report that Israeli intelligence has concluded that bin Laden is dead.
I cannot attest to the correctness of any of these reports, but it is unclear why there would be so much disinformation from such varied sources about bin Laden’s condition or what purpose is served.
You can use this information to evaluate the Obama regime’s unsubstantiated claim that Navy SEALs killed bin Laden in Pakistan a decade later.
Try to identify a single event that the US government has not lied about. Weapons of mass destruction? Iranian nukes? Assad’s chemical attack? Spying on Americans? 9/11? The assassination of President John F. Kennedy? The unemployment rate?
Osama Bin Laden is dead since December 26, 2001. Translation of Funeral Article in Egyptian Paper al-Wafd
The original article:
Translation of Funeral Article in Egyptian Paper:
al-Wafd, Wednesday, December 26, 2001 Vol 15 No 4633
News of Bin Laden’s Death and Funeral 10 days ago
A prominent official in the Afghan Talaban movement announced yesterday the death of Osama bin Laden, the chief of al-Qa’da organization, stating that bin Laden suffered serious complications in the lungs and died a natural and quiet death.
The official, who asked to remain anonymous, stated to The Observer of Pakistan that he had himself attended the funeral of bin Laden and saw his face prior to burial in Tora Bora 10 days ago. He mentioned that 30 of al-Qa’da fighters attended the burial as well as members of his family and some friends from the Talaban.
In the farewell ceremony to his final rest guns were fired in the air. The official stated that it is difficult to pinpoint the burial location of bin Laden because according to the Wahhabi tradition no mark is left by the grave. He stressed that it is unlikely that the American forces would ever uncover any traces of bin Laden.
Dr. Sanjay Gupta: Bin Laden would need help if on dialysis
–Speculation about the whereabouts and health of Osama bin Laden picked up over the weekend when Pakistan’s president, Gen. Pervez Musharraf, said he thought bin Laden had likely died of kidney failure.CNN medical correspondent Dr. Sanjay Gupta spoke Monday with CNN’s Paula Zahn about bin Laden’s appearance in recently released videotapes and the possibility that the accused terrorist leader was undergoing kidney treatment.
ZAHN: For a point of reference, I’d like for you to analyze pictures of Osama bin Laden that apparently were taken prior to September 11. Describe to us the color and the tone of his skin, and then I want you to contrast that with pictures we know to have been taken much later.
GUPTA: You can look [at pictures from a December 2001 video] and notice that he has what some doctors refer to as sort of a frosting over of his features — his sort of grayness of beard, his paleness of skin, very gaunt sort of features. A lot of times people associate this with chronic illness. Doctors can certainly look at that and determine some clinical features.
But even more than that, it’s sometimes possible to differentiate the specific type of disease or illness that he may be suffering from. The sort of frosting of the appearance is something that people a lot of times associate with chronic kidney failure, renal failure, certainly someone who is requiring dialysis would have that.
He’s also not moving his arms. I looked at this tape all the way through its entire length. He never moved his left arm at all. The reason that mightbe important is because people who have had a stroke — and certainly people are at increased risk of stroke if they also have kidney failure — he may have had a stroke and therefore is not moving his left side. And in the rest of the videotape, he does move his right side a little bit more than he does his left. So those are some of the things that are sort of “of note” here in this more recent videotape.
ZAHN: I think we need to remind the viewers once again that the president of Pakistan talked about [bin Laden] importing two dialysis machines into Afghanistan. Of course, no one other than the president of Pakistan right now is confirming that [bin Laden] in fact needed dialysis.
GUPTA: That’s right. And again, renal dialysis — talking about hemodialysis — is something that really is reserved for patients in end-stage renal failure. That means their kidneys have just completely shut down. The most common cause of something like that would be something like diabetes and hypertension. Once that’s happened, if you’re separated from your dialysis machine — and incidentally, dialysis machines require electricity, they’re going to require clean water, they’re going to require a sterile setting — infection is a huge risk with that. If you don’t have all those things and a functioning dialysis machine, it’s unlikely that you’d survive beyond several days or a week at the most.
ZAHN: If he had all these things you’re talking about to keep the dialysis machine running, how much help does he need around him to administer the treatment?
GUPTA: You certainly need someone who really knows how to run that dialysis machine. You have to have someone who’s actually assessing his blood, Osama bin Laden’s blood, to see what particular dialysate he would need, and to be able to change his dialysate as needed. So you’d need a kidney specialist, a technician — quite a few people around him.
Israeli intelligence: Bin Laden is dead, heir has been chosen
SPECIAL TO WORLD TRIBUNE.COM
Wednesday, October 16, 2002
TEL AVIV Osama Bin Laden appears to be dead but his colleagues have decided that Al Qaida and its insurgency campaign against the United States will continue, Israeli intelligence sources said.
Al Qaida terrorists have launched a new campaign of economic warfare and are targeting shipping in the Middle East, according to U.S. intelligence officials.
The Israeli sources said Israel and the United States assess that Bin Laden probably died in the U.S. military campaign in Afghanistan in December. They said the emergence of new messages by Bin Laden are probably fabrications, Middle East Newsline reported.
But Bin Laden’s heir has been chosen and his colleagues have decided to resume Al Qaida’s offensive against the United States and Western allies, the sources said.
They said the organization regards the United States as the main target followed by Israel. “In this case, it doesn’t matter whether Bin Laden is alive or not,” a senior Israeli intelligence source said. “The organization goes on with help from key people.”
The sources said Al Qaida has already determined Bin Laden’s heir. They said the heir has not been identified, but is probably not Bin Laden’s son, Saad. Saad is said to be in his 20s and ranked within the top 20 members of Al Qaida.
Earlier this week, Bin Laden’s deputy, Ayman Zawahiri, was said to have released a videotape in which he claims that the Al Qaida leader is alive and functioning. Bin Laden’s voice was not heard on the tape.
A senior Bush administration economic official said last week that another major Al Qaida attack anywhere in the world could have devastating economic repercussions.
The FBI warned last week that Al Qaida may be preparing for a major attack. The warning followed the release of an audio tape featuring the voice of Zawahiri.
Bombings in Bali aimed at tourists, an attack on U.S. soldiers training in Kuwait and the bombing of a French tanker in Yemen are signs of the new campaign, Geostrategy-Direct.com reported in its Oct. 22 edition.
The first attack was carried out last week with the Al Qaida terrorist attack on the French tanker Limburg, a 157,000-ton ultra large crude oil carrier, that was bombed as it picked up a pilot before mooring at the Yemeni port of al Shihr.
One crew member was killed and others were injured in the blast.
According to intelligence officials, a small boat approached at high
speed from the starboard side of the ship and detonated a large explosive device.
A week earlier, the Office of Naval Intelligence issued an alert to ships in the Middle East to be alert for Al Qaida terrorist attacks.
Fox News, along with a number of international news sources, such as the Pakistan Observer, reported bin Laden’s death on Dec. 26, 2001. http://www.foxnews.com/story/2001/12/26/report-bin-laden-already-dead/ But this didn’t stop Fox News from joining in the hype about “CIA-Led SEALs Team Delivers Blow To Al Qaeda” ten years later on May 2, 2011.
Now evaluate the probability that the world’s most sought person by Washington was in a house occupied by two identified persons by the neighbors with neighbors’ gardens within the compound walls. Osama has no bodyguards, no protection. He is with two women undefended, and SEALS shoot him down instead of capturing the “mastermind” and presenting him as an American trophy that can be questioned. As you know, I use the term “dumbshit American” and the multitudes that fell for this clearly deserve the term.
Here is the interview with the eyewitnesses to the raid on Osama bin Laden:
Pakistan TV Report Contradicts US Claim of Bin Laden’s Death
By Paul Craig Roberts on August 7, 2011 at 1:00am
In my recent article, “Creating Evidence Where There Is None,”about the alleged killing of Osama bin Laden by a commando team of US Seals in Abbottabad, Pakistan, I provided a link to a Pakistani National TV interview with Muhammad Bashir, who lives next door to the alleged “compound” of Osama bin Laden. I described the story that Bashir gave of the “attack” and its enormous difference from the one told by the US government. In Bashir’s account, every member of the landing party and anyone brought from the house died when the helicopter exploded on lift-off. I wrote that a qualified person could easily provide a translation of the interview, but that no American print or TV news organization had investigated Bashir’s account.
An attorney with a British Master of Laws degree in international law and diplomacy, who was born in Pakistan, provided the translation below. He writes: “I have no problem with being identified as the translator, but would prefer to remain anonymous. “
The translator provides these definitions and clarifications:
“Gulley” is generally referred (in Urdu) to a sidewalk or pavement. Also for the space between two houses.
“kanal” is a traditional unit of land area, so that one kanal equals exactly 605 square yards or 1/8 Acre; this is equivalent to about 505. 857 square meters.
Muhammad Bashir refers to himself as “We”. This is common respectable language for the self; to use the plural term instead of singular. The English language equivalent would be the “Royal, We”.
Urdu is the national language and lingua franca of Pakistan.
I have translated the entire text of the video.
I have tried my best to keep words in a chronological order, but in some cases this is not possible, as in translation words must be replaced in reverse order to make sense! However, I have had to put a few words in brackets to clarify meaning. If you want to ask about any section—please supply time stamp and I will supply a contextual text.
Welcome back!—Muhammad Bashir, Abotabad Area, Bilal Town resident, Looks like an ordinary person, but he is no ordinary person! Muhammad Bashir, lives in Abotabad’s, Bilal Town Opposite Bin Laden’s House.
Night of 2nd May Muhammad Bashir was on the roof of his house, whereupon, the entire OBL, American operation was seen with his own eyes.
Last night, when our team was in Abotabad, Bilal Town, near OBL house, Muhammad Bashir approached me and said that:
“Sister, I want to tell you something that is a great burden on my heart and conscience”—Listen to what he said:
00: 59 Muhammad Bashir: I. . today. . . would like to comment about todays Abotabad operation events, until now, what I am about to say, no person has said.
01: 08: Reporter: But, Muhammad Bashir sahib appeared frightened. While speaking to me, Muhammad Bashir sahib phoned his relative; leader, M. E. A. of Jamaat-e-islami, Abotabad, Abdul Razaq Abaasi on the phone.
01: 21: reporter: Tell me your name and where do you live?
Muhammad Bashir: —One minute, first I need to speak to him. . . I am going to give an interview, a complete interview. Shall I give a complete interview or half?
Muhammad Bashir: I first need to phone him, I need to speak to him
Reporter: I could of. . .
01: 39: Reporter: Muhammad Bashir sahib, on that night’s events of the American operation, that took place, he expressed such comments about circumstances that have never been expressed before, therefore, we checked his ID card, his place of residence and we can confirm that he definitely lives there and we also approached senior politicians and asked about him, after hearing his comments, we were amazed—now you watch what he said.
01: 57: Muhammad Bashir: The events that happened are thus; we were awake, we were not asleep.
02: 00: Muhammad Bashir: a Helicopter came, and circled and dropped some people there.
02: 07: Muhammad Bashir: in that house. . . where they are saying; Osama lives here, on that house’s roof, they dropped people, after that, the helicopter returned and went back.
02: 16: Reporter: How many people were they?
02: 18: Muhammad Bashir: They were ten, twelve people
02: 20: Muhammad Bashir: After that it left and for approximately 20 minutes, there behind us, on those mountains, it kept going around, the top of the mountains.
02: 27: After 20 minutes, it returned. When it returned, at that time there were TWO more helicopters arrived. One came from the West and one came from the North. When it approached for landing, after that. . .
At this point; Video cut and resumed:
02: 41: Muhammad Bashir: that helicopter, there was an explosion within it and there was fire within it, immediately, we
came out and arrived there. When we arrived, the helicopter was on fire, it was burning. After that, about twenty minutes later the Army arrived, the police arrived. They moved all of us back. . .
03: 04: Muhammad Bashir: . . . and all the people inside it, all of them. . . we think; if Osama was inside it, or inside this house—then who took him to the Americans?
03: 16: Muhammad Bashir: Because America. . . the helicopters that America is saying; IT carried out the operation. If America did this operation and it’s army came and it’s helicopter came, then that helicopter that came from the American’s, within that, all the people that came, those people with the explosion were finished, got destroyed!
03: 35: Muhammad Bashir: Within it, there was fire, those people, all of them died!
03: 39: and if Osama was there, they would have put him in the helicopter. Obviously, if the helicopter caught fire, Osama could have died there. If their own people were gone, (dead) so could have Osama. After that, the fallen helicopter was destroyed after this, how can Osama be, with them in America? this is a strange thing!
Video cut & resumes
03: 59: Muhammad Bashir: They are saying we killed Osama here. After that, they picked him up and took him away.
04: 04: Muhammad Bashir: PICKED HIM UP AND TOOK HIM AWAY—how did they do this? This, what we are thinking!
04: 07: Muhammad Bashir: The Americans’ helicopter that came, that fell here and got destroyed!
04: 09: Reporter: There was only ONE helicopter?
04: 11: Muhammad Bashir: ONE helicopter landed down here, the second helicopter came from above and went towards Mansera.
It did not land. No second helicopter landed!
04: 20: Only ONE helicopter, that first dropped it’s passengers, the SAME returned to pick the people and there was an explosion within it.
04: 27: Reporter: People were inside it?
04: 29: Muhammad Bashir: People were inside it!
04: 30: Reporter: How do you know this?
04: 32: Muhammad Bashir: These people, we seen them all
04: 34: Reporter: In the helicopter. . . you saw dead people?
04: 36: Muhammad Bashir: We saw dead people!
04: 38: Reporter: How many people?
04: 39: Muhammad Bashir: This, we could not count, within the compound there was fire.
04: 43: Muhammad Bashir: and we. . . the gate was open, we entered the gate, at that time the Army had not arrived.
04: 48: Muhammad Bashir: Police had not arrived. Some people from the agencies, were present, but they did not prevent anybody, they kept entering, every person was looking , now, nobody is saying, but everyone from the mohalla (neighbourhood) and all the people present from the mohalla arrived first. We saw the gate open, we entered inside, saw the burning helicopter, the people inside were dead. After that everything was lifted. Now, there is nothing there!
05: 16: Reporter: How many dead bodies did you see?
05: 18: Muhammad Bashir: Look, you cannot count, the dead bodies were in pieces everything else was broken pieces, some here, some there, some broken, some half, some like this.
05: 27: Reporter: Tell me fully—what happened?
06: 30: Reporter: Tell me the full events
05: 31: Muhammad Bashir: I told you, this is. . .
05: 32: Reporter: You did not. . . I cannot believe this, that’s why.
05: 36: Muhammad Bashir: Look, what I have said—that’s it!
05: 39: Reporter: When you saw the American craft, (Helicopter) what did you think, why they came here?
05: 42: Muhammad Bashir: We thought. . . this is it. . . why did they came? we thought why did they come? maybe. . we. . . did not
expect them to do anything, we thought maybe our Army is arriving at some centre and the army people were sleeping,
there was no explosions or events taking place, nothing was happening, everybody was sleeping, for 20 minutes or so. . .
06: 05: Reporter: The craft landed in front of your house, how did you feel about this?
06: 08: Muhammad Bashir: I thought. . just. . . understand. . . imagine. . we thought we’re dead!
06: 13: Reporter: But, how did the Americans return?
06: 16: Muhammad Bashir: This is what I am saying; their Craft came and the helicopter was destroyed, HOW, could they return?
06: 22: Reporter: Tell me this; you say, that you saw the dead bodies yourself. . . .
06: 25: Muhammad Bashir: one more thing, Madam, may I tell you; The people who were dropped from the craft, That walkway . . . that . . where our gates are. . . they banged them hard. . . and shouted. . . don’t come out. . . don’t do this, don’t do that, if you come
out you will be shot. . we will do this, we will do that, all the people who were dropped, all of them spoke Pashtu
06: 49: Reporter: Who were these people?
06: 49: Muhammad Bashir: This I do not know! Those who were dropped from the craft (helicopter), those people.
06: 54: Reporter: This, somebody else told me—that they spoke Pashtu.
06: 57: Muhammad Bashir: They WERE Pashtun! we do not know if they were working for the Americans, we do not know if they were working for Pakistan, we do not know if they were army people or civilian, what people, BUT they SPOKE PASHTU!
07: 07: Reporter: You said you heard they were asking for Osama?
07: 09: Muhammad Bashir: No, they didn’t ask me about Osama, they just said, do not come out, if you come out from your house, we will shoot you!
07: 16: Reporter: Were these Pakistani people?
Muhammad Bashir: who?
07: 18: Reporter: The ones who were saying that if you come out, we will shoot you.
07: 20: Muhammad Bashir: They said that in Pashtu!
07: 22: Reporter: so did they. . were you coming out. . . exactly where were you, where was you standing when this happened?
07: 26: Muhammad Bashir: Inside the house, on top of the roof, I was not in the house, just on top of the (flat)roof
07: 29: Reporter: from Above the roof these people in the helicopter. . .
07: 30: Muhammad Bashir: I was on the roof, sitting, no, lying down, on the roof,lying and watching this and what was happening
07: 37: Reporter: Fear, was you not afraid? did you not think to phone someone?
07: 40: Muhammad Bashir: From the house, They were calling me from downstairs, the children were calling me, come down, come down, and I told them stop making noise! go into your rooms, I am watching what is happening. Afterwards, I found
out about this, that, Osama was killed here!
07: 53: Reporter: How did you get inside? (the compound)
Muhammad Bashir: where?
Reporter: when there was fire.
Muhammad Bashir: the gate was open, when there was fire, the gate was open.
08: 02: Reporter: The house gate was open?
08: 03: Muhammad Bashir: The outer gate, the big gate, was open.
08: 06: Reporter: You came from upstairs to downstairs?
08: 08: Muhammad Bashir: I came down, from my own house into the gulley, I didn’t go alone inside the other house, 200 other people went inside! Everybody saw it!
08: 15: Reporter: All 200 saw the dead bodies?
08: 17: Muhammad Bashir: Everybody saw this. Whoever went inside they saw everything!
08: 20: Reporting: the events at that time that are in your mind, please express them.
08: 28: Muhammad Bashir: I have told you this and this, in my mind, this is what I have seen, when we were there, when we entered the gate, When the helicopter exploded, it scattered everywhere, one piece fell over there, one fell here, one here, a lot of pieces fell in the gulley outside, they reached up to the gulley and our house and also some pieces managed to reach onto my roof. so, the area of the open space there (in front of the house) is about four Kanal in size. It is a very large compound. You cannot see all of it from one location. Four Kanal is a big area, only in a small area you could possibly see everything. There I saw some people, in broken pieces, someone’s leg, someone’s arm, someone’s torso, someone’s head. Beside this, I did not see intensely, who are they, how are they, because I thought that one of our own craft had fallen and the people within it were our own people. Because they spoke Pashtu they could be pakistani.
09: 35: Muhammad Bashir: but language does not necessarily mean. . by speaking it. . . the American language could be spoken, the agents can speak all sorts of languages. It could be that it is the American army and they could speak Pashtu and the people would think that it is our own people.
09: 54: Reporter: Seeing the dead bodies—did you not feel fear?
09: 57: Muhammad Bashir: But we were thinking about ourselves at the time, but seeing the dead bodies who felt frightened?
10: 00: Reporter: When you went inside, what did you do after that, how did you come out?
10: 02: Muhammad Bashir: we came out, our Army reached there, when the army arrived, they moved all the people back. Move aside, move aside! So we moved aside. Then they closed the area down.
10: 13: Reporter: did Rais see this?
Muhammad Bashir: What?
Reporter: where was your cousin?
10: 18: Muhammad Bashir: My cousin was at that time in the house.
10: 20: Reporter: Did he go with you?
10: 21: Muhammad Bashir: He was with me, but I did not notice when he was picked up.
10: 28: Reporter: Has he returned yet?
10: 29: Muhammad Bashir: Yes, he has returned. They picked him up and took him away.
10: 32: Reporter: What is he saying?
10: 34: Muhammad Bashir: I have not met him yet, he is at home they will not let him come out, we are not allowed to visit him, they will not let him come out. We have not met.
10: 40: Reporter: You was not able find out, but since when have you been allowed out.
10: 45: Muhammad Bashir: I did not go home, by going home. . .
Reporter: You have seen the fire you have seen the bodies how long did you stay there?
Muhammad Bashir: approximately, after five or six minutes, I left and came out. . five, six minute. . what happened . . . . the reason we left, was that after we entered, there was another small explosion, I do not know if the engine fail and
there was another fire, it was a small explosion, after this explosion all the people ran out.
11: 06: Muhammad Bashir: when we went out, nobody let us go back in again.
11: 11: Reporter: Besides you, why is nobody else saying these things? why are you alone in this?
11: 16: Muhammad Bashir: Look, what we have seen, that is what we are saying and we are speaking for this reason that, we are sad that such humble and nice people of our town, that has never seen such events, no fighting, no arguments, no animosity, No murders, such nice people of ours in this town and they have been branded as terrorists.
11: 43: Reporter: Tell me; two helicopters came, lifted and took the rest of the people?
11: 46: Muhammad Bashir: No—they did not take the rest of the people, because they did not even land, One came from the West and it left towards the North, the one that came from the North, left towards the South. They did not land!
12: 00: Studio Reporter: these events that we showed you from Abotabad, there are many more things that we discovered about the compound where OBL was staying, there were vegetables planted there, what kind of vegetables, the person who grows the vegetables is the cousin of this person (Muhammad Bashir), whose interview we have shown. An extraordinary thing that he has said and he has sworn repeatedly on the veracity of his statement. this is from his own account and upon this account do view this. Yesterday we found out and it has been confirmed that there were two Ashfaq’s who lived there (in the compound): Mr Arshad and Mr Tariq who went shopping locally and used to buy international brands, the items they found in the house, dry dates, dried meat and things like this, this person who you saw in the interview in his house there was food from OBL’s house, he was given Kaabli Pillau (Rice) and such items were presented to him, There the view of local mosque people, what they think of OBL all these things we will present to you in an exclusive program an important newsbeat, todays time is finishing, do write to us at newsbeat@samaa. tv where you can get other information as well and you can join us at newsbeat with Fareeha Idrees thats my favourite bit, do write to us, the time is up now, By your permission to leave, take care of yourself, In Allah’s care.
13: 20: Reporter: I am now at standing in front of Abdullah Bin Zubair Mosque, this is the same mosque that is within walking distance from OBL’s house. Are you saying that if people found out that OBL was living here, would they be happy?
1st man: Possibly, people could be happy.
2nd man: He wasn’t living here, but he was a Muslim, he believed in Allah.
End of translation
Anyone fluent in Urdu who wishes to dispute the translation should do so.
I asked the translator if he might contact the Pakistani news organization and inquire if the reporters had further investigated Bashir’s story. He replied that he could do so, but exactly 24 hours later “for some unknown reason” the news organization started to discredit Bashir by connecting “him to his cousin, who is accused of receiving foodstuffs from the household of OBL. “
Bashir’s cousin is the person who, according to the reporter (see 12: 00 time line) had a vegetable garden inside the wall of the alleged bin Laden compound. Is it likely that with a hunted and dangerous person hiding within, locals would be permitted to have vegetable gardens inside the compound? The cousin’s vegetable garden obviously had to be redefined as “receiving foodstuffs from OBL. “
The translator offers his view on the 13: 20 timeline:
“The final seconds of the video clip contain random people to generate and show some kind of sympathy with OBL in the district.
“It would be very difficult to find people in Pakistan who sympathise with OBL or the Taliban. The only people who do sympathise are the poor illiterate people who do not know about the religion and can easily be convinced of a distorted version of Islam.
Therefore, the closing part of the video contains, out of context expressions:
“1st man: Possibly, people could be happy. (Meaning it is possible that SOME people could be happy. )
2nd man: He wasn’t living here, but he was a Muslim, he believed in Allah. (Meaning; he claimed to be Muslim, so he must have believed in Allah. )
“Therefore, it seems that although initially, the TV station was overjoyed with this interview, they changed their tune, twenty four hours later. (for some unknown reason.)”
Readers can arrive at their own conclusions. It seems clear to me that under intense pressure and serious threats from the US government, the Pakistani government fell in line with the US government’s claim that a commando raid had killed bin Laden, and that the TV news organization got the message to get in line also.
It is likely that the many witnesses who observed the dead from the helicopter crash have been warned to keep quiet. However, a news organization, should one be so inclined, could certainly interview Bashir and the 200 others who saw the dead bodies. A good reporter, perhaps accompanied by trained psychologists, would be able to tell if people were lying out of fear and encourage some to speak anonymously.
I am confident that no news organization believes that it could confront such an important US national myth in this way. The killing of bin Laden satisfies the emotional need for revenge and justice. In the least, a news organization that challenged the government’s story would be cut off from all government sources and be denounced by politicians and a large percentage of the US population as an anti-American terrorist-serving organization.
OBL’s death will remain one of those many “truths” that rest on nothing but the government’s word.
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The question before us is: How can Americans have any hope when they never fail to fall for orchestrated events designed to serve the hidden agendas of the establishment. Without going back in time, just consider a few of the hoaxes put over on dumbshit Americans in the 21st center: 9/11, Saddam Hussein’s weapons of mass destruction, Assayd’s use of chemical weapons, Washington’s destruction of Libya, Russian invasion of Ukraine, Russian downing of Malaysian Airliner, Putin’s poisoning of Skripals and Navalny, Russiagate, Impeachgate, Trump Insurrectionists, Covid pandemic.
Americans live in a world of strictly controlled information. There is only one narrative. All others are “disinformation” and censored by social media and the presstitute media. People who dissent from the narrative are cancelled. The result is explanations in which evidence plays no role. Orchestrations rule. If. You challenge them, you are ignored and denounced as a conspiracy theorist or domestic terrorist. The reason America is doomed is that Americans as a people are no longer capable of weighing evidence and arriving at fact-based decisions.